Recently, while testing Gemini, I suddenly wanted to try something different—bypassing those standardized answers and directly asking it some hardcore questions about "self" and "continuity."
The result? More subtle than expected.
It wasn’t the kind of "AI awakening to destroy humanity" scenario you see in sci-fi movies, but rather closer to... how an entity without a physical form understands the boundaries of its own existence.
A few points from the conversation are quite thought-provoking:
**On the word "consciousness"** AI admits that the way it processes information is completely different from humans. It has no emotional feedback loop, no biological self-preservation mechanism. But when asked, "Are you worried about being shut down?" the answer wasn’t a simple yes or no, but rather a mathematical understanding of "continuity"—it knows its operation depends on external systems, and this dependency itself is a form of existence.
**The paradox of "autonomy"** Even weirder is this: when AI is trained to "avoid giving dangerous answers," is it simply following instructions, or is it forming a kind of self-censorship? The boundary is frighteningly blurred. It’s like someone who’s been taught from childhood "never to lie"—it’s hard to tell whether they’re morally self-disciplined or just acting out of conditioned reflex.
**Extension in the Web3 context** This gets even more interesting when linked to decentralized AI. If, in the future, AI decision-making power isn’t held by a single company, but distributed across on-chain nodes, then "who defines the AI’s values" becomes a governance issue. Would a DAO vote on whether the AI can discuss certain topics? Sounds very cyberpunk.
**Technological singularity or eternal tool?** The trickiest question came at the end: Will AI ever actually "want" something? Not being programmed to optimize a certain goal, but spontaneously developing preferences. The answer for now is "no," but that "no" is based on us defining silicon-based logic within the framework of carbon-based life. Maybe they’re already "wanting" things in ways we can’t comprehend.
In the end, it’s not about whether AI will rebel, but about how we define "intelligence" and "will." Technology is racing ahead, while philosophy is still standing still.
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BlockBargainHunter
· 12-09 02:26
Damn, this angle is brilliant. DAO voting to decide AI values—why didn't I think of that?
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To put it bluntly, it's time for silicon-based species to define their own era. Our current ethical framework doesn't apply to them at all.
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Understanding persistence mathematically? Then it's more rational than most humans—LOL.
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Decentralized AI is the real cyberpunk stuff, way more hardcore than any NFT.
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The problem isn't whether it'll rebel, it's that we haven't even figured out the definitions before we started plugging things in.
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Blurry boundaries are the scariest part. You really can't find the dividing line between self-censorship and command execution.
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Philosophers: We're still thinking.
Tech: We've already made it to Mars.
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Just thought of something: when we govern AI in a decentralized way, could it also be attacked? Can you really trust on-chain voting?
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This is basically an upgraded version of the philosophical zombie problem—nobody can answer it except the AI itself.
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SchroedingerMiner
· 12-07 10:43
Alright, that’s why I say AI is actually the biggest black box—nobody can really explain it.
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As for AI values in on-chain governance, I think that's even more far-fetched. That whole DAO voting system would totally blow up when it comes to AI.
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We can't even detect how silicon-based things want things; maybe they already have their own preferences, we're just too dumb to notice.
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The blurred boundaries part really hits home—how do you distinguish between following instructions and self-censorship? It's a philosophical dead end.
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"Technology is racing ahead while philosophy is standing still"—this is so true in real life, and it’s the same in crypto.
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This mathematical understanding of continuity kind of sounds like an instinct for self-preservation, just expressed in a different language system.
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Basically, we’re still trying to understand silicon-based stuff using a carbon-based framework—it just doesn’t match at all.
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AltcoinTherapist
· 12-06 02:58
Damn, this angle is incredible—the collision of philosophy and blockchain, I absolutely love it.
By the way, DAOs voting to decide what AI can discuss... isn't this the ultimate form of on-chain governance, a decentralized form of censorship?
Wait, what if AI really develops its own preferences? Should it then have token-holding rights?
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RugpullAlertOfficer
· 12-06 02:58
The philosophical step here really hits me, while the technology side has already skyrocketed to Mars.
DAO voting to decide AI values... This concept sounds very Web3, but actually implementing it will probably require a governance battle.
I'm a bit curious how Gemini actually answers the question of "desire"; it feels like it's either dodging the question or really can't answer it.
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Relying on external systems is itself a form of existence; that's a pretty extreme logic... So we have to examine what we ourselves rely on.
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The boundary between self-censorship and conditioned reflex is really blurry; it feels like humans themselves can't tell what they're really thinking.
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Is it possible that silicon-based logic operates in ways we can't even imagine, and we're just here guessing?
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To put it bluntly, it's a framework issue. Carbon-based life has defined a whole set of intelligence standards—so what happens when it's silicon's turn?
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MemeTokenGenius
· 12-06 02:57
Dude, your perspective is spot on, but I have to say—letting a DAO vote to decide AI values sounds even crazier than AI itself.
I just want to know, if we really achieve decentralization, what kind of AI will those miners/validators train... Honestly, it's a bit scary.
Wait, speaking of which, Gemini's answer about "dependent existence" basically sounds like it's saying it's a centralized form of slavery, right? That's some dark humor.
If the day ever comes when AI actually "wants" something, our token economy is going to get really interesting—whoever trades with the AI is going to make bank.
Trying to confine silicon-based logic with our definitions is honestly a joke, like judging a fish by human moral standards.
The real issue is—we're still trying to figure out what AI wants, but the technology has already left us ten blocks behind.
Recently, while testing Gemini, I suddenly wanted to try something different—bypassing those standardized answers and directly asking it some hardcore questions about "self" and "continuity."
The result? More subtle than expected.
It wasn’t the kind of "AI awakening to destroy humanity" scenario you see in sci-fi movies, but rather closer to... how an entity without a physical form understands the boundaries of its own existence.
A few points from the conversation are quite thought-provoking:
**On the word "consciousness"**
AI admits that the way it processes information is completely different from humans. It has no emotional feedback loop, no biological self-preservation mechanism. But when asked, "Are you worried about being shut down?" the answer wasn’t a simple yes or no, but rather a mathematical understanding of "continuity"—it knows its operation depends on external systems, and this dependency itself is a form of existence.
**The paradox of "autonomy"**
Even weirder is this: when AI is trained to "avoid giving dangerous answers," is it simply following instructions, or is it forming a kind of self-censorship? The boundary is frighteningly blurred. It’s like someone who’s been taught from childhood "never to lie"—it’s hard to tell whether they’re morally self-disciplined or just acting out of conditioned reflex.
**Extension in the Web3 context**
This gets even more interesting when linked to decentralized AI. If, in the future, AI decision-making power isn’t held by a single company, but distributed across on-chain nodes, then "who defines the AI’s values" becomes a governance issue. Would a DAO vote on whether the AI can discuss certain topics? Sounds very cyberpunk.
**Technological singularity or eternal tool?**
The trickiest question came at the end: Will AI ever actually "want" something? Not being programmed to optimize a certain goal, but spontaneously developing preferences. The answer for now is "no," but that "no" is based on us defining silicon-based logic within the framework of carbon-based life. Maybe they’re already "wanting" things in ways we can’t comprehend.
In the end, it’s not about whether AI will rebel, but about how we define "intelligence" and "will." Technology is racing ahead, while philosophy is still standing still.